A quick introduction to Uriah Ministries…

          Few stories contained within the scope of the Old Testament time frame move me with such verve as the account of the hero Uriah, and the character he displayed when confronted by a rebellious king, for not only did his actions encompass the very essence of honor, but they also testified to the very depths of the meaning of brotherhood. Brotherhood. It’s a word that inspires thought, and even more, in the hearts of true followers of Christ, inspires action. Brotherhood is a concept created by the Lord to bond us to one another as we travel this forsaken land, with a purpose to expand the Kingdom of Heaven, a duty that none should ever take lightly. Uriah’s actions have inspired many, including me, so here’s a quick recap of the life of Uriah.

          Uriah was a Hittite soldier in the army of King David, that had it all. He commanded everything from men to respect, and lived the life most men would dream of. Uriah was a part of David’s “mighty men”, an elite force of 37 of the best fighters in the Israeli army. His wife, Bathsheba, a woman possessing a very rare beauty, caught the eye of King David while bathing on her roof, and was immediately ordered to the king’s bedchamber where he commanded her to commit adultery- after which she became impregnated with King David’s child, and this is where the treachery began. David had Uriah brought from the front lines so that he might sleep with his wife and the adulterous nature of her pregnancy would be hidden by his visit home, but something wasn’t right. Uriah, a man that held the concept of honor and duty and brotherhood near and dear to his heart, refused to sleep with his wife while home. As a result David sent word to Joab and commanded that Uriah be placed on the front line where the fighting was fierce so that Uriah would fall in battle. Below is the account from II Samuel 11:6-16. Take note of Uriah’s response to David when asked why he wouldn’t lie with his wife in verse 11.

6. So David sent this word to Joab: “Send me Uriah the Hittite.” And Joab sent him to David.

7. When Uriah came to him, David asked him how Joab was, how the soldiers were and how the war was going.

8. Then David said to Uriah, “Go down to your house and wash your feet.” So Uriah left the palace, and a gift from the king was sent after him.

9. But Uriah slept at the entrance to the palace with all his master’s servants and did not go down to his house.

10. David was told, “Uriah did not go home.” So he asked Uriah, “Haven’t you just come from a military campaign? Why didn’t you go home?”

11. Uriah said to David, “The ark and Israel and Judah are staying in tents, and my commander Joab and my lord’s men are camped in the open country. How could I go to my house to eat and drink and make love to my wife? As surely as you live, I will not do such a thing!”

12. Then David said to him, “Stay here one more day, and tomorrow I will send you back.” So Uriah remained in Jerusalem that day and the next. 13 At David’s invitation, he ate and drank with him, and David made him drunk. But in the evening Uriah went out to sleep on his mat among his master’s servants; he did not go home.

14. In the morning David wrote a letter to Joab and sent it with Uriah.

15. In it he wrote, “Put Uriah out in front where the fighting is fiercest. Then withdraw from him so he will be struck down and die.”

16. So while Joab had the city under siege, he put Uriah at a place where he knew the strongest defenders were. 17 When the men of the city came out and fought against Joab, some of the men in David’s army fell; moreover, Uriah the Hittite died.

 

          This story has taught me a lot about brotherhood and about a code of honor amongst men, a code that has transformed my view of biblical brotherhood, as it pertains to the body of Christ. Many in our day and age use their faith as a weapon, not as a tool to uplift. These critics of the body, who label those who have a focus on grace and mercy and love as emergents and heretics, have forgotten the true concept and meaning of brotherhood, and have become a cancer to the body of Christ. Therefore I have created Uriah Ministries as a tool by which I hope to encourage others in the true concept of family, within the body of Christ. It is my prayer that the Lord will help this humble blog gain attention of believers amongst the www community and that someone, somewhere might be encouraged by the topics presented here.

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~ by Tim Kurek on September 4, 2007.

18 Responses to “A quick introduction to Uriah Ministries…”

  1. Fighting for truth, is not important anymore. Instead we place Truth on the back burner and concern ourselves with things live Love and Unity.

    But it’s not some Pampering Love, it’s a Perfecting Love we are commanded to have. A Perfecting Love let’s people know they are in danger of eternal Hell, and that their entire view of Scripture is Heretical.

    We need Love, We need Brotherhood. This is agreed. However the Book of Jude makes it incredibly clear that we are to Fight for Truth.

    Remember, jude was going to write about Brotherhood, but he changed it…

    JUDE 3-4
    Dear friends, although I was very eager to write to you about the salvation we share, I felt I had to write and urge you to contend for the faith that was once for all entrusted to the saints. For certain men whose condemnation was written about long ago have secretly slipped in among you. They are godless men, who change the grace of our God into a license for immorality and deny Jesus Christ our only Sovereign and Lord.

    He then speaks on their condemnation, and how important it is we FIGHT for Truth.

    The thing is that the Emergent Movement refuses to label Heretics. So you do have honest people in the Emergent Movement. Honest, Hard Working Christians.

    They are blinded, and in danger. This is where my Brotherhood and Love comes in. GET OUT, GET OUT I yell as the House is on fire and they are asleep in the comfort of their own beds.

    Jude 22-23 ends with this…

    Be merciful to those who doubt; snatch others from the fire and save them; to others show mercy, mixed with fear—hating even the clothing stained by corrupted flesh.

    Whose clothes in the Emergent Movement do you Hate? Why are these people with corrupted flesh allowed a platform to speak…?

    Marcus Pittman
    http://www.transplantministries.com

  2. My dear friend,

    I read your response and I am not in disagreement with the brunt of your message, but the spirit behind your words regarding the “emergent church” and their “heretical beliefs” is that of pride and abrasiveness, rather than out of love and a true understanding of brotherhood. Of all my readers and critics, and friends, I knew you would be the first to reply. Marcus, this is the same conversation we have had a thousand times. It is not absolute truth, the need to preach a balanced gospel, or the true Biblical definition of love that we are disagreeing on here… It is the spirit of dissension that I am overwhelmed with every time I read your blogs or responses. I agree with most of what you say, but the entirety of your message is made corrupt by the tiny amounts of poison and venom in what you write. The body of Christ is not something you should abrasively try to “straighten out”. You need to pray without ceasing, and love your neighbor as yourself. Uplift and encourage knowing that when someone sins or speaks blasphemy against God or His people, it is not against you that they have sinned, it is against God. Let God deal with the judgments and you make sure that your life is being lived according to what the Spirit has commanded of you.

    Tim Kurek

    Uriahministries.wordpress.com
    TimKurek.com

  3. For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears.

  4. “I agree with most of what you say, but the entirety of your message is made corrupt by the tiny amounts of poison and venom in what you write.”

    This is what we have been saying about the Emergent Church! Please, do not use the words of fundamentalist who attack the deception of The Emerging Movement by using their Words as Yours.

  5. The spirit of your urgings and your blogs and your videos is such that you slander the “emergent Christians”… What I am saying is win them with love and speak to them with respect please!!!!!! They are still your brothers and sisters and calling names will not win them over. Treat them the way you would want to be treated.

  6. Excuse Me Tim, but I am not attacking the Christians who have gone astray, I am attacking the Heretics that are leading the movement. The Wolves in Sheep Clothing, Read the Book of Jude and then get back with me on how we should treat Heretics.
    You are correct when you say we should speak in Love. But you water down the term to make it like all soft and squishy. Real love is Bold and Speaks loudly….

    I call out tot the Christians (Some my Firends) who have fallen own this route, and are blinjded by the “Overuse” of Love.

    Do you think Jesus’s Love can be expressed by an episode of the OC, when he was calling Pharissees and False Prophets VIPERS! Was he saying that in a soft tone, or was he yelling, pleading with them….

    I am yealling and pleading in Love, to abandon this abhorrent theology of “PAMPERING LOVE” and cling to the real Love the, The Perfecting Love of the Bible, not the squishy “Teddy BEar” love of Miller, Bell and Mclaren.

  7. Marcus,

    By attacking them the way that they attack you, you become no better than they. I agree with you, you should speak a bold, black and white, absolute truth message because that is what the gospel is! A radical truth that doesn’t need to be made pretty to appeal to society… We are in agreement! What I am saying is, focus on the lost and showing them the relief they could have in Jesus, instead of calling people out and using strong speech to condemn them. Jesus did that, but last time I checked, are you him?!?!?!?! NO! Realize that you are just as proud as they and your message is tainted with that pride. You have so much potential, so does your ministry, but you refuse to let God handle His own business, while you handle yours. Make fishers of men, and stop bashing Donald Miller, Rob Bell, and anyone else that you disagree with. I don’t agree with any of them 100% either, but it is not my business to bring down their ministries. It’s my job to minister to those that need help. Pure and undefiled religion is what? Visiting widows and orphans in need and clothing the poor. Read James 1. Wait for my next blog to respond brother.

  8. to Tim Kurek:

    you said:”Make fishers of men, and stop bashing Donald Miller, Rob Bell, and anyone else that you disagree with. I don’t agree with any of them 100% either, but it is not my business to bring down their ministries”.

    are you really a servant of God?

    God said:”CRY ALOUD, SPARE NOT, LIFT UP THY VOICE LIKE A TRUMPET, AND DECLARE UNTO MY PEOPLE THEIR TRANSGRESSION, and to the house of Jacob their sins”.(Isa 58:1)ASV

    You said: “I don’t agree with any of them 100% either, but it is not my business to bring down their ministries”.

    Eph 6:12 For our wrestling is not against flesh and blood, but against the PRINCIPALITIES, against the POWERS, against the world-rulers of this darkness, against the spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places.

    Isa 56:11 Yea, the DOGS are GREEDY, they can never have enough; and these are shepherds that cannot understand: they have all turned to their own way, EACH ONE TO HIS G-A-I-N, from every quarter.

    DO YOU KNOW WHO ARE THEY?DO THEY UNDERSTAND?

  9. Interesting that you are using primarily the old testament to refer to judging people. The law of Moses was a harsh set of laws to follow, but when Jesus died and spilled His blood for us, thats when a new and radical message came to be. The mandate for holiness was still there, but the blood saturated everything and the beautiful grace of God became tangible to the people.
    Now I am not saying that Jesus didn’t demand a lot from us from the accounts in the gospels, (i.e. “Be perfect as your Father in Heaven is perfect”) but He also told us to love our neighbor and to judge not lest we be judged. His message was of unity in Himself, not of criticism and backbiting words! Your type of theology is pharisaical and outdated.

    “Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.” (John 8:7)

    “Work out your own faith with fear and trembling… for it is God who works in you both to will and to do for His good pleasure.” (Philippians 2:12-13)

    “For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? How can you say to your brother, Let me take the speck out of your eye when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.” (Matthew 7:2-5 )

    We are to speak the truth in love (Ephesians 4:15).

    Receive one who is weak in the faith, but not to disputes over doubtful things. 2 For one believes he may eat all things, but he who is weak eats only vegetables. 3 Let not him who eats despise him who does not eat, and let not him who does not eat judge him who eats; for God has received him. 4 Who are you to judge another’s servant? To his own master he stands or falls. Indeed, he will be made to stand, for God is able to make him stand. 5 One person esteems one day above another; another esteems every day alike. Let each be fully convinced in his own mind. 6 He who observes the day, observes it to the Lord; and he who does not observe the day, to the Lord he does not observe it. He who eats, eats to the Lord, for he gives God thanks; and he who does not eat, to the Lord he does not eat, and gives God thanks. 7 For none of us lives to himself, and no one dies to himself. 8 For if we live, we live to the Lord; and if we die, we die to the Lord. Therefore, whether we live or die, we are the Lord’s. 9 For to this end Christ died and rose and lived again, that He might be Lord of both the dead and the living. 10 But why do you judge your brother? Or why do you show contempt for your brother? For we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ. 11 For it is written: “As I live, says the LORD, Every knee shall bow to Me, And every tongue shall confess to God.” 12 So then each of us shall give account of himself to God. (Romans 14:1-12)

    “And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.” (John 8:2-11 KJV)

    Must I go on???? There are countless other passages! See what you do not understand brother, and this goes for Tekhak too, we ARE to help others know the truth and to condemn sin, but we are to do so in love, giving them the solution instead of harping on the problem. You doubting my salvation showed your arrogance and ignorance towards the gospel, and while I appreciate you taking the time to respond to my blog, I pity those who you have “taught” about the gospel of Christ because there is no love or humility in your judgements.

  10. to TIM KUREK:

    you said:”There are countless other passages! See what you do not understand brother

    you are using verses which you really don’t understand
    don’t you?

    in Matthew 7:2-5 Did Jesus say that you are not allowed to judge?

    Matthew 7:5″Thou hypocrite, CAST OUT FIRST the beam OUT OF THINE OWN EYE; and THEN SHALT THOU SEE CLEARLY TO C.A.S.T O-U-T THE MOTE OUT OF THY BROTHER’S EYE.

    THEN you can judge but you have to cast out first the beam of thine own eye before you cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye

    you are using Romans 14:1-12 you are not allowed to judge! judgeing of what? the food they eat!how they serve thier masters! its clear!but we are talking about THE SOULS.

    you said:” I pity those who you have “taught” about the gospel of Christ because there is no love or humility in your judgements”. DO YOU LOVE THEM? WHEN YOU SAID “I don’t agree with any of them 100% either, but it is not my business to bring down their ministries”. IS THAT WHAT YOU CALLED LOVE? DOING NOTHING TO THOSE SOUL TO BE SAVED?

    CHRIST SAID:

    Mat 23:23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye tithe mint and anise and cummin, and have left undone the weightier matters of the law, justice, and mercy, and faith: but these ye ought to have done, and not to have left the other undone.

    Mat 23:27 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which outwardly appear beautiful, but inwardly are full of dead men’s bones, and of all uncleanness.

    Luk 6:26 Woe unto you, when all men shall speak well of you! for in the same manner did their fathers to the false prophets.

    DO YOU LOVE THEM MORE THAN CHRIST?

    Pro 27:5 Better is open rebuke Than love that is hidden.

    Pro 27:6 Faithful are the wounds of a friend; But the kisses of an enemy are profuse.

    Romans 12:9 LOVE MUST BE COMPLETELY SINCERE. HATE WHAT IS EVIL, HOLD ON TO WHAT IS GOOD.

  11. Got a quick question… Do all of you hyper fundamental evangelicals not know how to write in a coherent way in proper English with proper spelling? Tekhak, and you both have the same issue? Is that ignorance of basic English principles remotely related to your ignorance of a balanced gospel? Just curious. My friends, readers, and I just sit back and wonder, have you ever heard of spell check? But forgive me if that question seems harsh, I am just frustrated with America’s public education system, of which you seem to have been a part…

    And referring to your message… If I am to “hate what is evil and cling to what is good.” does that mean I am to hate you, hate tekhak, hate everyone? You see we are all evil, and our works are “as filthy rags” apart from God’s love and grace, so should that hate include other people? I think you might say yes, only because your messages are so filled with selfish pride and true ignorance of the balanced gospel that I can hardly get through them. May God forgive you for attempting to damage His body, and may the humility and grace of God wash over you like a cool breeze, taking with it your pride and false perceptions and interpretations of the gospel. You question my salvation, you abrasively shove your point of view down peoples’ throats… I dare say that if anything you are de-evangelizing more than evangelizing.

    I am very tired of this topic because of the abrasive manner in which you and Tekhak have approached the table of “friendly” debate. No more please.

    Your friend,
    timothy kurek
    https://uriahministries.wordpress.com

  12. I realize I am but a stupid, flawed man. But I cannot understand how this arguing between Christians could belong to Christ. I see a tormented world and am angered by it. I want to change it, change it for the better, change it into an army of God. But when I speak out in harsh tones, I realize I have not the words and the strength to stomp out the flames. There is so little I can do and so much God can accomplish, and if he wishes to accomplish great things through me, it will not be because I am strong. If people like Marcus believe we are powerless, flawed, misguided, and weak, then surely he is the very same. God gives him no more strength than I, and if God can give me strength, surely he can give the same strength to ANY other soul on this earth. I wish we would all do less talking and more listening and reading. God has already accomplished miracles in Christians before us. Enjoy some quotes:

    “If we have no peace, it is because we have forgotten that we belong to each other.”

    “Jesus said love one another. He didn’t say love the whole world.”

    “There should be less talk; a preaching point is not a meeting point. What do you do then? Take a broom and clean someone’s house. That says enough.”

    “We, the unwilling, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have done so much, for so long, with so little, we are now qualified to do anything with nothing.”

    “Words which do not give the light of Christ increase the darkness.”

  13. to Tim Kurek:

    I’m sorry about my spelling but do not focused to much time on spelling my friend as St. Paul said:

    2Co 3:6 who also made us sufficient as ministers of a new covenant; not of the LETTER, but of the spirit: for the LETTER killeth, but the spirit giveth life.

    I am not the one who said Romans 12:9″ LOVE MUST BE COMPLETELY SINCERE. HATE WHAT IS EVIL, HOLD ON TO WHAT IS GOOD.

    it is God who said that

    you said: If I am to “hate what is evil and cling to what is good.” does that mean I am to hate you, hate tekhak, hate everyone? You see we are all evil, and our works are “as filthy rags” apart from God’s love and grace, so should that hate include other people?

    you don’t have to hate other people
    God said:Luk 6:27 But I say unto you that hear, Love your enemies, do good to them that hate you,

    love y-o-u-r enemies not God’s enemy, see the difference

    who told you that we are all evil? maybe some but not all,

    1Co 6:9 Or know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with men,

    1Co 6:10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

    1Co 6:11 And such were some of you: but ye were washed, but ye were sanctified, but ye were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, and in the Spirit of our God.

    You said: and our works are “as filthy rags”,
    whose works?

    Isa 64:5 Thou meetest him that rejoiceth and worketh righteousness, those that remember thee in thy ways: behold, thou art wroth; for WE HAVE SINNED: in those is continuance, and we shall be saved.

    Isa 64:6 But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.

    whose righteousnesses are as filthy rags? those WHO HAVE SINNED! IT IS CLEAR

    WHAT IS SIN?

    1Jn 3:4 Every one that doeth SIN doeth also lawlessness; and SIN is lawlessness.

    Jas 4:17 TO HIM THEREFORE THAT KNOWETH TO DO GOOD, AND DOETH IT NOT, TO HIM IT IS SIN.

    Rom 14:23 But he that doubteth is condemned if he eat, because he eateth not of faith; and whatsoever is not of faith is SIN.

    MAY GOD OPENED YOUR HEART

    Act 16:14 And a certain woman named Lydia, a seller of purple of the city of Thyatira, one that worshipped God, heard us: whose heart the Lord opened to give heed unto the things which were spoken by Paul.

    pls. read more Bro. Eli Soriano’s blog

    http://www.esoriano.wordpress.com

  14. “The more things you know and the better you know them, the more severe will your judgment be, unless you have also lived a holier life. Do not boast about the learning and skills that are yours; rather, be cautious since you do possess such knowledge. If it seems to you that you know many things and thoroughly understand them all, realize that there are countless other things of which you are ignorant. Be not haughty, but admit your ignorance. Why should you prefer yourself to another, when there are many who are more learned and better trained n God’s law than you are? If you are looking for knowledge and a learning that is useful to you, then love to be unknown and be esteemed as nothing.”

    “There is no holiness, O Lord, if You withdraw Your comforting hand. no wisdom is beneficial to us unless Your direct it. No strength is sufficient for us unless You supply it. No chastity is without peril unless You protect it. No watchfulness over ourselves is advantageous to us unless You Yourself watch over us. When You are not with us, we sink and perish, but when You visit us we rise up and live again. Of ourselves we are unstable, but Your steady us; we are lukewarm, but Your set us on fire.

    What humble and modest opinion I ought to have of myself, and of how little worth I ought to judge the good qualities I may seem to possess. How deeply I ought to submit myself to Your fathomless judgments to discover that I am nothing but nothingness. Yes, nothing! You, Lord, are immeasurably vast and great and I am nothing. You are a boundless unnavigable sea wherein I discover that I am absolutely nothing.

    Do I have any excuse for pride to remain concealed within me? Where now is my reliance on imagined virtue? All these useless boasting of mine is annihilated in the depths of Your judgments upon me.”

  15. Ok, just one more. It’s at the very beginning of the book.

    “What good does it do you to be able to give a learned discourse on the Trinity, while you are without humility and, thus, are displeasing to the Trinity? Esoteric words neither make us holy nor righteous; only a virtuous life makes us beloved of God. I would rather experience repentance in my soul than know how to define it.”

  16. Eze 37:24 And my servant David shall be king over them; and they all shall have one shepherd: they shall also walk in mine ordinances, and observe my statutes, and do them.

    Eze 37:25 And they shall dwell in the land that I have given unto Jacob my servant, wherein your fathers dwelt; and they shall dwell therein, they, and their children, and their children’s children, for ever: and David my servant shall be their prince for ever.

    Eze 37:26 Moreover I will make a covenant of peace with them; it shall be an everlasting covenant with them; and I will place them, and multiply them, and will set my sanctuary in the midst of them for evermore.

    Eze 37:27 My tabernacle also shall be with them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

    DO YOU THINK URIAH IS BETTER THAN DAVID, DANIEL OR JOB?

    THAT’S WHY YOU’RE CHOOSING URIAH AS NAME OF YOUR MINISTRY?

    JUST CURIOUS?

    http://www.esoriano.wordpress.com/

  17. to Tekhak/ Marcus Pittman:

    Are you a christian?

    Act 11:26 and when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that even for a whole year they were gathered together with the church, and taught much people, and that the disciples were called CHRISTIANS first in Antioch.

    Are you following the Law of Christ?

    Mat 28:19 Go ye therefore, and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them into the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit:

    Mat 28:20 TEACHING THEM TO OBSERVE ALL THINGS WHATSOEVER I COMMANDED YOU: and lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world.

    HAVE YOU NOTICED? “OBSERVE ALL THINGS WHATSOEVER I COMMANDED YOU”

    1Ti 2:9 In like manner, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefastness and sobriety; not with braided hair, and gold or pearls or costly raiment;

    1Co 11:14 Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a MAN HAVE LONG HAIR, it is a DISHONOR to him?

    1Co 11:15 But if a woman have LONG HAIR, it is a glory to her: for her hair is given her for a covering.

    3Jn 1:7 because that for the sake of the Name they went forth, TAKING NOTHING OF THE GENTILES.

    ARE YOU FOLLOWING CHRIST?
    WHY ARE YOU ASKING DONATION FROM THE GENTILES OR NOT YOUR BRETHREN?

    Joh 7:17 If any man willeth to do his will, HE SHALL KNOW OF THE TEACHING,, whether it is of God, or whether I speak from myself.

    Joh 7:18 HE THAT SPEAKETH FROM HIMSELF SEEKETH HIS OWN GLORY: but he that seeketh the glory of him that sent him, the same is true, and no unrighteousness is in him.

    http://www.esoriano.wordpress.com

  18. Typical Christians. You folks can sure be ugly. I’m a Christian and find that I really don’t want to have much to do with other people who profess to be Christians. A lot of hateful, ugly people. I think that’s the way Jesus percieved the religious people of his day here on earth. I’ll just stay home and read the Bible, thanks. You can have your “fellowship”, and broterly love”.

    Yeah, Uriah was quite the guy. As I wrote in a post yesterday, David was where Uriah should have been and Uriah was where David should have been. David operated, Bathsheba co-operated, Uriah co-operated, Joab was complicit. Very sad story of a “Mighty” man.
    Hey folks, no matter what, if David made it, we just might have a chance. If judgement begins with us where shall we find the sinner?

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